6981st Security Group
Elmendorf AFB, Alaska
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Was stationed at Elmendorf from 67-70. Can’t say I remember your dad, but I have slept since then. Could be we were on different flights. I was on Baker Flight.
I was on Charlie Flight from July 1969 until January 1972
Nov. 1967-69 then on to Kelly 6993rd until Jan. 1971.
Hopefully your site will jog my memory.
I certainly remember your father. I was in Alaska at the 6981st from 1968-70. I worked on Dog Flight and lived in the barracks. Your father was my immediate supervisor for a time along with SSGT. Imperial. Your father, as I remember him, was just a regular guy, more concerned with doing the job than with all the military stuffiness. He was easy to talk to and had a great sense of humor. My memory is that he was always in motion. He was a good influence on all the young guys. You should be very proud of him.
Tried to post this earlier, but it didn’t appear. I knew your father pretty well. I worked under him and SSgt. Imperial in the MSD section. Your father was someone who did his job well, without all the military stuffiness. He had a wonderful sense of humor and always seemed to be on the go (though I have an image of him getting “stressed” when “hot” items came up). He was fair to all and was a great influence on the younger guys like me. You should be very proud of your father.
Was stationed at the 6981st in 64 &65. Some of the names I recall were, Major Applegate, Squadron Commander, and Sgt. Griner, Squadron 1st Sgt. Worked with a Master Sgt Hampton, Staff Sgt Woody Woodworth, Tech Sgt Wargo, and a couple of ditty bops, Sgt Cooper and Sgt Griffin. Cooper, Griffin, and Hampton formed a bluegrass band, the Chugach Mountain Boys. Does that strike a chord with anyone? Am looking for Sgt. Woodworth in particular.
Stationed at Lackland, Keesler, Goodfellow, Corry Field, NSA, and Elmendorf between 63 and 65. Early out when rotated back to the states. Honorable Discharge, Maelstrom AFB. Have contact with a few, but looking for others, particularly Sgt Woody Woodworth who was stationed at Elmendorf in 64 & 65. Any help appreciated.
Correction. Elmendorf in 64 – 66. It has been a long time. (-:
Seeking info on a 6981st reunion.
Anyone please reply to me.
Assigned from July, 1964 to 1968: and 1974 to 1979. Radio Maint. shop.
6981st 1963 – 1967, MSD analyst. Remember Jerry P. Harris, William Berkley looking for others.
I think Jerry Harris was in the Navy Group and down one floor from us
I did a lot of administrative work for Lt. Smith on Charlie Flight as well as Voice
what flight were you on and were you voice or ditti boppers
Radio Maint 67′-69′ A wonderful part of the journey. learned a lot about radio’s and life.
I was on charlie Flight from Nov. ’70 to Dec. ’72. Diti bopper
Was at ElMendorf 11/68 – 9/71, lived off base. I do not remember the flight but it was either A or B. Worked in DF, TSGT. Williams (really a fat guy) and TSGT Winters later on).
Tall African American three striper
81st,SSGT, Able Flt, ditty-bop-67-70. Sgts Hicks, July, Williams, nice guys all. Everybody smoked. In S&W when the Pueblo critic came through
Was at Elmendorf in 6981st from 1970-1972. Was a ditty bop and then in the DF shop.
I was at the 6981st from 1973 to 1977. Some names I remember were Merlin (Andy) Anderson, Larry kelley, Bill wallace, Jim Back and Jackie Blair. The 81st was by far my best assignment. I’ll always have fond memories of that place and time.
I was in USAFSS from Sept 1966 until July 1972. Trained as an Analyst (202X0)at Goodfellow, graduating in spring 1967. First assignment was the 6910th Sec Wing in Darmstadt. Worked in the area called the Surveillance and Warning Center (SWC)on Able Flt. Rotated to the 6981st in July 1969. Assigned to the SWC, Charlie Flt under SMSGT Douglas and MSGT Budge. I remember your Dad’s name but that’s about all. I joined the Air Force hoping to get in the Weather Service. I never regretted being assigned to USAFSS. It was an exciting and challenging field for a young man.
I was in 6981st from May 1966 to October 1969
I was in the 6981st as a 203 from March 1969 to Aug. 1970. Worked on Able flight. Was married, lived in Government Hill apartments, just off base. Returned to 6981st fall 1971 and was there until discharged in 1974, that time with a “day lady” job working for a SMSgt named Pat Glidden. Worked mostly with 202’s that time.
I was in the 6981st from March ’69 to April ’71 as a 29251 bopper in A Flight on B Console along with Andy Hollimon and Tim Morrissey. After AK, went to Ramasun Station, Thailand, with 6924th Sec Sqdn May 71-May 72.
I suspect you do not remember me but we sat across form each other on Able Flt. I did not remember the flt until you stated it. I was across the floor in Tsgt Cross’s team. I remember the Pueblo evening very well. You guys tracked on your fancy machines…we tracked with frigging typewriters. I eventually moved to DF.
DO you remember that tall skinny black guy in the team across from you? You had a guy on your team from Detroit. I forget his name..tall skinny white guy.
I remember your Sgts. as they had a country western band!!!!
I do believe you were from Wisconsin of some place up North.
Did you stay in Alaska…that was once your intent.
I can be found on Facebook and Abh1171@aol.com
I remember you well John……IT is good to see some of us hold fond memories of our time in the 6981. I do not remember my console but Sgt. Cross was the boso and I went to DF after a time.
At 6981st from January 1968 until September 1969. Ditty Bop on D flight. Lived in the barracks with Mike Laughner (Language analyst). I noted that Terry Post has posted on this site. Terry, you Mike and I were on the same flight. I remember SSGT Imperial, also Senior Master Sargent Ray Allor. I worked for his cleaning company on my time off in Anchorage. Went to 6924th Security Squadron, DaNang, South Vietnam down from the DMV.
Was with 6981st from 11/67-06/70. Was a “20351,” Voice Intercept Processing Specialist (Russian), on “Baker” flight. Do not recall your father, but am very familiar with MSGT (ret) Jerry Evans, who was the first to post an e-mail to your page. Our controller was TSGT Virgil Wethington, one great guy. Have kept up with Larry Sherwood, who was there at the same time and on the same flight.
If anyone comes to this site and cares to hook-up with a group that is trying to pull back some great memories…please email me at Abh1171@aol.com. The group is a bunch of ‘A” flt guys but non-the-less some of us at least spoke as we turned over our shifts.
I can also be found via this name on FACEBOOK.
All right you fellow ditty boppers!
Good to see someone is finally getting busy and trying to locate each other. I was at 6981st from Nov 66 to Mar 70. Worked on the same shift with Curt Cross, Jerry Richardson, Mike White, Dan Barbero,Dave Hejnal to name just a few. Went down to DF and worked for Tsgt James Williams until discharge. Can’t forget to mention Jesse Allen and Don “Pup” Verell. My e-mail is email@example.com
I remember all night poker games with coffee cans of change and listening to country music all night.
Was with 6981st from September, 1972 to May, 1974. Names I recall are Frank Rodriguez, Don MacNamara, Brad Riechart, Bill Goerhing.
was on dog flight 1966 to 1968. remember the pueblo incident well.started on ruusian civil air and then went to s and d. eventually to chinese weather net.i do recall the loss of bobby kennedy while stationed there,was at a sgt ishms home. we usede to ride what was called the blue goose(bus). I was a ditty bopper to. many of the names of the men i served with elude me now, but the nicknames were, tree,because he was so big. mine was secret squirrel. also had a guy named c.t.rogers. percy abbot was my roommate for awhile,believe he was from new hampshire. would like to hear from some of the men i ewas stationed with there still have the jacket for dog flight with snoopy and headsets he was wearing. remember this 73 and 88.
my father msgt. Edward j. Hallbach senior was stationed at elmendorf at this time as a matter of fact this was our second tour of duty there we were in the 64 earth quake and lived in I believe hollywood vista any way we lived in the hospital housing area we were the very first family to move in to this brand new housing area at the time. My father worked for supply at the time. He is still alive and living in coosbay oregon.
I was at the 6981st from December ’67 til March ’71. Worked on Charlie Flight. I worked several different sections. Started out in the barracks but got married and then lived in Richardson Vista on Govt. Hill.
Was at 81st from Aug 69 to Jun 71
as a 202
Was at 81st April 66 to Feb 68. Worked on Able flight as a 203. SSgt Les Williams was our supervisor. Was also on duty the night the Puebo was captured.
Would like to know if anyone remembers Pete Lawson who was a 202 or knows his current status. I think he arrived there in July ’68 after training at Goodfellow ended in June ’68 and likely served until around Aug ’71. We were in analyst class together and I was assigned to the 6912th in Berlin.
Looking for doug erickson good bowler known as rookie
He was oringinally from MN
I was a 29150 communications spec. at the 6981st from June 1967 to June 1969. Was working the night of the Pueblo. It was a great learning experience for a 21 year old. Been a long time, but would love to hear from some of the communications guys.
I was on “A” flt between Dec, 69-Jun, 71. I remember our flight supervisor was a fellow nicknamed “Coach.” Lt. Fortner, I think was the flt OIC. I’ve forgotten a lot of names but I sort of remember Holliman, Weidemeyer, Andrews, Walsh, Tancredi, Max Jones?, and I’m sure my memory will improve as I talk to some of you guys.
Eddie Flinchum–Winchester, Ky.
Richard, I wish I had seen your message sooner. The information came from Joe Martin, who was at the 6981st. Joe is originally from Western North Carolina and ran into Pete Lawson a number of years ago. Pete was the editor of a newspaper in Bryson, NC. Joe told me last March that he went back to Bryson a couple of years ago to see Pete, and found out that he had retired and that he died in August 2009. I remember Pete at work with a pipe in his mouth and a bemused look on his face.
Jerry Van Dyken, John Horvath here… I remember you from “C” flt… July 67 to May 69. I am still in touch with Will Ellis, others I have lost contact with. Hope all is well and good to see a name from long ago.
I was at 6981st from 4-64 to 3-66.
Worked day shift as 202 in RT.
Remember names like, John Drost,
Deberensa, Ed Lang, James Clapper,
James Dupree, Jerome J Hammond, Rodney A Corrity, Jerry Kowal and Dave Olson.
Then on to Kelly for my last 13 months.
Anyone out there who wants to get updated.
Regie you were my best man when I got married in san antonio 1967.I remember Debreensa clapper Hammond Kowal,and Dave Olson was my roomie at elmendorf.
Looking for Rob Martin from Louisiana or Texas, and Ralph Lane from Michigan. Both served at the 6981st on A Flight within the 1968-1971 time frame. Rob went to the 6924th, Ramasun Station, Thailand. Not sure where Ralph went after AK.
Hey Ed Lang. I was on A flt but I remember your name for some reason. We just had a reunion in Raleigh, NC and REGGIE came over to it. He looks really good, dresses impeccably, and sounds the exact same. In fact, he does not appear to have aged very much at all. We are A Flt guys but he was an early contact as we pulled ourselves together. We are seeking names, numbers, pics and whatever for our work. We have a Facebook page ….http://www.facebook.com/groups/169889279725602/257903140924215/?notif_t=group_activity (It is private you will have to send us a note for admission.and feel free to email me at Abh1171@aol.com, if you wanna see some real FB Alaska pics and stories. Have u stayed in contact with any guys on other Flts (especially A FLT)? We are seeking, Rob Martin,Kowlaski, Petersen, Max Jones, Ralph Lane and a few other guys.
ROB MARTIN, RAPLH LANE, BRUCE LOCKHART. Wake the hell up and call HOME, dudes!!!!!! We even found Al Koch
Served in Pakistan 1967-68, then Elmendorf 1968-70 as a 29251. Also worked part time for Ray Allor at Xcel Janitorial. Played short field for our Able Flight 1970 softball team. 15 & 3 record.
Some of the guys I remember on Charlie flight between 1970 and 1972 were Ross Blue, Lou Sartori, Jim Blitch, Sgt Douglas, Don Border, Mike Holwagner, Jim Towne, Sgt Miller,
I will try to remember more but memory fails me now
just thought i would stick a line in to see if anyone from the 6981st had been at the 6980th rsm, st lawrence island in 1962-1963. ife you were drop me a line and we can reminise
Served at 6981st from June 1959 to June 1961 would like to get in touch with any one who served at this time was on “A” flight for a year was a Y 20250 Non-mores raido printer anayalsis
Served at 6981st Jan 1960 to Jan 1962. Was on “D” flight. Great basketball team! This flight had several outstanding athletes. As I recall Master Sqt Yeoman in charge, Sgt’s Hogg, Clary, Cooper, Lane, Jackson, and Anderson served under him. I was a diddy-bop.
Arrived at the 6981st either in June or July of 1959. Roommates were Jay Hayter and Clay Barbee. Cannot remember which flt. we were on but I do remember we were in the third room in from the end of the barracks on the ground floor. Somewhere along the way I came into possession of an aerial photo of the entire base and can actually see the window of my old room. Lots of great memories. Left there in ’61 assigned to Luke AFB in the base command post. Discharged in Oct. 62. Have a lot of good memories of Alaska, and a few bad ones. CMS Louis D. Yoemans Jr. comes under the latter heading. Anybody remember him? He and I butted heads from the moment we saw each other. He was the most unpleasant individual I ran across during my entire enlistment. Am retired now from Praxair Corp. and living the good life in St. George, Ut. Lots of fishing, golfing and atv’ing among other things. Like most of you, I can’t get the code out of my head. I still occassionaly find myself doing the dit, dah, spelling of words that I see. The 6981st was a great experience, one I’ll never forget.
Was assigned from 1973-77. Best assignment we ever had. Some of the people I remember: Bill Alley,
Jim Back, Jim Nix, Steve Nicholson,Larry Kelley, Bill Copeland, Bob Alberti, Doug Scott,
Merlin Anderson and many others.
Fishing on Willow Creek and down on the Kenai was fun.
John Horvath, I remember you, too. I believe we worked together on A console. I spoke with Mike Orndorff a few months ago. He was my room mate and then my best man when I got married.
Jerry Van Dyken, good to hear back. Guys I remember from the barracks. Will Ellis, whom I am still in touch with, Mike Holwanger, George Messer, Mike Paraska, Pat De Luca, Bob Brickl… also remember Eli Weiss from C flight & msgt archie ouzts. I was in San Antonio in the fall, many basic grads on town leave, I could not have possibly looked that young!
charlie flight sept 71 to july 73
I was stationed with the 6981st from 1961 to 1964. Did a lot of bowling at the anchor bowl and the lanes going out to the international airport. My roomie was George Valentine from Tampa, Fla.also knew a guy named John Burrell from Georgia..Lots of good memories and one horrific one:the 1964 earthquake!!!Now living in florida .All of us went to IU then on to Goodfellow Afb.
I was stationed at the 6981st from
1959-64 and 1969-72. The last three years as S&W on C-Flight. Great memories of Alaska. Visited that great state six times in the past 20 years. After AF retirement, I worked for the State of Oklahoma, Director of Recruitment, civilian workforce. Living in the Oklahoma City area.
I was on charlie flight from Nov 66 through dec 1970. I applied for an extension while there. Thus the 3year tour at elmendorf. I remember Jerry Vandyken and Mike Orandorf. Does anyone know the whereabouts of harley Carter or Joe O’Rourke?
my email is firstname.lastname@example.org
Just found this link.
Anyone remember the commercial jet that went down on the road between the barracks and the listening station. Was a morse intercept analyst (201 ?) at the 81st. Lived in the barracks and worked at a used car lot next to the drive ( The Bun ?) across the road from Sears. Some of the names do ring a bell, but heck we are all getting old.
I remember the crash. i just got off of a mid night shift. the bus to the baracks wasnt showing up on time. some of us decided to walk down the hill… we were stopped by the AP. we hitched a ride in the back of a pickup truck that took us the long way around through the center of the base. i was one frozen popcicle at the end of that ride.
Your name rings a bell. Were you an analyst? Can’t really recall many names of the guys I worked with, but here are the cars that I drove while I was stationed at Elmendorf. Pontiac Lemans, Rambler station wagon, Red Buick Electra convertible and finally a Silver GTO. I used to hang around with a guy who was an aircraft mechanic. Never really stayed on base that much. Tried to take advantage of the summer by always going to Goose Lake, and winters were all about partying.
Ring any bells.
If anyone else happens to read this thread, here are some of the stunts I pulled while stationed at Elmendorf. As I used to tell folks, “just there to do my job and time and do my service to the country”
Refused to do UGT, was not worried that I couldn’t go past E3 or 4.
Constantly complained about the plugs on the parking lot for our cars. The only ones that seemed to work were the ones for the Officers. If you had a car, they were needed for the tank heater on your car in the winter, so your car would start.
Left my duty post early one shift ( all my cuts had been pulled and punched in ) after approval from my duty supervisor. They came for me, and wanted to award me a Beaver Award, remember them, and I wasn’t there. Can’t remember who got in touch with me, but I was informed that the MP’s were looking for me. Met with our commanding officer the next day and lost my stripes. Rotated out shortly after. Went to NSA at FT. Meade.
Ron, I was a ditty bopper… My station was back by the restrooms and lockers. you guys were on the back wall right? My boss was tech sgt Harley Carter. One of the analysts I remember was George Leskovansky. We went to the same college after discharge. I don’t remember any of the other analysts on my flight (C flight). I remember the beaver awards. I even got one. whoopie…. i was the barracks chief on c flight for a little over a year. didn’t want it but the first sgt volunteered me. I am sorry ron, i don’t remember you. you’re right. it’s been a long time. It’s still good to know alot of us from the 81st are still around. Take Care
Ralph, I do remember that our machines were against a wall. By the way, do you remember that the different flights had colored baseball caps. The more I think about it, I was probably was on D flight, green ball cap.
I do remember that we were allowed to eat breakfast at the SAC chow hall after our mid shift, my imagination ??? Appreciate the time to reminisce.
c flight cap was maroon. sac chow hall?? there was a chow hall in the 6981st building the opposite side of the admin wing of the building. do you remember an air police named cruze? they used to sit inbetween the 2 sets of stairs leading up to ops. anyway…. some of us went down to the vending area near the chow hall and barber shop.. on our way back to ops we found him asleep….. the guy was an AH….always giving the “jeeps” grief. do you remember major moffett? i cant remember the name of the full col. who was incharge of the 81st. no problem on bringing up old times.
Major Moffett sure brings up fond memories, he was the officer that took my stripes in the beaver fiasco. Not that I didn’t deserve it. Cruze doesn’t ring any bells. Most of the MPs I knew were happy to be at Elmendorf and not in Nam. Only ate at the SAC chow hall after mids, was located at the airstrip.
moffett was riffed out for not making next rank. he was pissed at everyone i think. i wish i could get in contact with a few that have posted here. i was stationed with them and remember them. i posted here thinking they would revisit this site and contact me. Maybe they did revist and dont want to contact me…. lol..
My name is Aurora Johnson im trying to contact an airman who was serving at the Elmendorf Airforce base in 1970 who went by the nickname “Dino” first name is Richard but not too sure. If you knew him or have any inforamtion of him please contact me. Thank you!
Wish I could help you on locating “Dino”
Ralph, I was hoping for the same thing, that someone on my flight would respond my post. Well at least we jog some of our old memories, even from different flights. Hoping some other guys find this sight.
are you talking about Dean Dunlap or Dean Parker…. they were both on c fligh. I just wish some of the guys that have posted here in the past come back…. Jerry Vandyken was on my flight and I remember him. I was hoping he could provide Mike Orandorff’s email and maybe a few others. I’ll keep checking……
Sorry about the delay in responding. Went to see our son and daughter in law in Portland Oregon. My wife likes to get out of the heat in Florida once in a while.
I wish I could say that those names ring any bells, but no luck. I do remember that the guy I roomed with was always trying to get me to convert and become new born, his name eludes me. As for the guys I worked with, not a glimmer of hope in any name recognition. I agree, here is hoping someone else finds this site.
Talk at you later.
29251 on Charlie Flt. 1963/65. Worked for SSgt Taylor in ’63 then SSgt Crow. Member of the 8.7 club. Falvie Ledet and I just got off the bus when the earthquake hit. Tremors for a year after. 2T’d to Pakistan. I guess to defrost!
I was stationed at the 6981st from May 1969 to June 1972. I served as Flt. Commander of Charlie Flight from 1969-1971, then served in Tactical and Systems Ops until I separated honorably in 1972. In the years since I’ve worked as government planner in Alberta, taught college classes at three universities, did a bit of natural resource consulting and finished with a stint as a college administrator. I’ve been retired since 2008, but this site brought back some memories and names, like SMSGT William Douglas, Col. Tyler B. Hunnicut, Major Philips, Lt. Col. Naylor, CMSGT Cecil Turner, Capt. Philip Verna, and others I haven’t thought of in 40 years. Man, the time has gone by fast!
Great to read your post. Yes, we served together on old Charlie Flight. I left the 81st for a 3 and 1/2 year tour at NSA as a
S&w Supervisor. Retired from the AF in Dec 75 and returned to Oklahoma. Worked for the State and left as Dir of Recruitment, Civilian Work Force, OPM. Been online since 1995, trading stock options. Active in the local Church and doing well. Take Care.
Just found this site. I was stationed at the 81st from 1959-1962. Started on Dawg Flt (I remember Whispering Lou Yeomans). Ended up on “A” Flt. Some of the people I remember: Carl Woods, Lowell Farmer, Larry Little, Clark Hall, Wilfred Jackson, Ricardo Moncrief, Ed Moncrief, Steve Salmonson, Mike Hayes, Steve Howell, Don Strong, Gary Wild, Brian Debuc, John Cameron, Alton Graves a TSgt Bill Schneider who screwed up my military career. I sing with a group of guys. We called ourselves “The Voltaires”. It was my first USAFSS assignment.
Dave Traweek….. was your degree in forestry? i remember a second lt. came on flight the year before i dischrged. remember him as a recent grad from the air force acadamy… could that be you? i remember sgt turner…. skinny hard ass…. lol…. and col hunnicut. if i remember he had a sports car and was friendly with dean dunlop. i dont remember the others. anyway… good to see others from c flight here. tks ralph
I was a 202 on St. Lawrence Island (The Rock) 6980th RSM in 1960 for one year then spent the next two years at 6981st Elmendorf. Any of my buddies still out there still alive?
I was an analyst with the 6981st from January 1972 to December 1973. I recall Capt Phil Verna, good guy. John Allgood a ditty bopper from Georgia. Mike Hirtes from South Dakota and “Texas” John Slaughter both ditty boppers. Did a lot of bowling and fishing. Earth quakes rocked us and the Israeli war kept us alert. Mao’s little red book was common copy. I always wondered what happened to them. The big map was always active. I think I was Charlie Flight. What was that guys name? “Skeets” Bob Eule or something like that. He was from Texas, had been ditty bopping for 20 years. Been a long time ago!
I was there on Able flt from late 68 to 70. Was a 202 and worked between the fishbowl and the first double row.
Just heard about a face book page but can’t find it . . . . Anybody know how to get on that?
Hey jerry van dyken……. do you have mike orndorff’s contact information?
at 6981st from jan. 1968 to april 1971. i was ditty bop on d flight. hello bill spears.
I am currently assigned to the 381 IS and was looking for any old pictures of the unit that people would be willing to send me to display in the unit today. Thanks.
Does anyone know the person that the softball field is named after?
Was in the 81st at Elmendorph for one month pulling KP then they decided to send me to Det 1(st lawrence)Then I did a consec back to Elmendorph and was in the Cripto ananlyst area (201). Was supposed to get married but fell through. So I volunteered to go back to St. Lawrence again. Then to HQ, Korea twice plus TDY, to Clark twice to Kelly (RIRAK), command post, and CSOC. Back to Clark and then to NSA again and retired in 1978.
Read a post the Jonh C Christian. If you read this drop me a line. Was on A flight 59-61
Was at 6981st on Charlie Flight from June 72 to June 75 working in DF section. I remember working with Steve Transue, Bob Linindoll, Larry Branch and Ed Kelly. Capt Verna was our flight commander for the last year or so. Just found this site today. Would like to know if anyone has photos from back then.
I was stationed at Elmendorf 1962-1964. Still remember the earthquake of 1964. I am looking for a friend I was stationed with by the name of Tommy Fugate and he had a twin named Joe. If anyone knows him let me know.
Correction of email
I was a SSgt 207 at Elmendorf on D flight from June 67 – Jan 70. My tour was cut short when they sent me to Nam. Hung out with Tom Smith, Wayne Kendrick, Bob Byrd and Tom Imperial. Lots of hunting and fishing with those guys. One of our OICs was Jefferson J Jarvis III, straight our of the Academy. Bill Snyder was out Mission Sup. Knew Ray Allor and Don Hemmingway (202’s).
My dad was stationed at the 6981st from 1970 or 1971 for 6 years until he retired from the military. His name was Jim Berry. Would be curious if anyone knew him. I represented the 6981st in the Miss Elmendorf pagent I think in 1974 I believe. He passed away 13 years ago, but love to hear stories. Thank You
I was a TSgt in 6981st -Baker Flight in “B” Console and worked under Lt. Few during 1969 – 1971. (a diddy bopper). I left the USAF, went to collage and was a Registered Nurse for almost 30 years. Now retired, a Ham Operator, call is -N4EAM. Still love morse code. I still have contact with a friend from 6981st, on Facebook, Tim DeVesser. Those were good times !
My father was SMSGT John H. Greiner, 6981st Radio Mobile & his CO was Major Applegate. I would love to know what happened to Major Applegate. His family stayed with us after the earthquake.
“C” flt, 1965 – 1967
Edward Lang – Contact me at email@example.com
I was with the 6981st at Elmendorf from 68-71. was an analyst..looking for folks who were then that I may have known.
I served under SSgt Jack Williams and TSGT Sawyer
I was a 202 and would love to meet some ditty bops and others that were there from 68-71
Served under Col, Hunnicut and Lt.Col Naylor and SSGT Jack Williams (went Bootstrap and got his commission)
Bob Stafford–contact me @ Ba4947@aol.com—Living in Mississippi now
Hi Ralph Cucitrone,
Yes I have a degree in Forestry from the Univ. of Idaho … was not an Academy grad. I remember CMSGT Cecil Turner very well … he was an outstanding NCO and quite a practical joker. He “got” me more than once. What a character he was back then. We got the job done and had some smiles along the way. Looking back from this remove I sure was a green shavetail. Wish I’d know then what I know now … oh well, water under the bridge.
I remember cmsgt Turner as a real hard ass…. at least that is what he looked like the first time i came on flight. Yes.we did get the job done and had lots of laughs on flight. I remember sending the new guys around flight after a mid night shift if anyone had EMHO. or cutting out their head sets by disconnecting the second pair of head sets. or blowing smoke through the back of the the radio receivers. do you remember tsgt harely carter? i tried finding him for a long time… no luck. Anyway… it was good to hear from you. Take care.
I remember SGT Bob Stafford. We served on Baker Flight from 68 – 71. I was an analyst in the cage with Bob and Larry Powers. My wife and I lived off base in a mobile home on Northern Lights Blvd.
Hope to hear from anyone that served with me.
Take care all..
I was stationed at Elmendorf 4/64 -4/66 and assigned to the Hospital Sq. I am trying to locate (Airman First Class) Terry Johnson who was assigned to the 6981 Security Gp and was there at approx the same time as I. We played in a band called the “EMBERS.” Terry played keyboard. He was from the Seattle, WA area. If anyone has info regarding Terry it would be appreciated. Please e-mail messsage.
Regards, Thank you all for your service.
Vern Coghlan (SSGT, USAF)
Hi Ralph Cucitrone. Unbelievable that I would see your name after all these years. Great memories from the years at Elmendorf. I do remember a lot of the names here since I was there 1967-1970 as Voice Intercept Operator. Dave Traweek was my Flt. Cmdr. I do remember you a lot more from YSU. I graduated in 1972 in Computer Tech. and over the years went from a programmer/analyst at Armco Steel to a IT Director at Chiquita Brands. Had a great career. Retired 3 years ago. I remember you getting married while we were at YSU. Everthing going well?
damm its good to hear from you.
i do remember us sitting in the cafeteria watching all the ladies.
how have you been?
I got married in 75. all is well with me. sounds like you had a good career. i retired last year from my IT job(s). i managed a couple of computer centers, then stepped down to software support. it got to be too much….. a lot of traveling involved. anyway… if you get a chance, drop me a line at firstname.lastname@example.org.
I was in 6981st Radio Mobile Group
until laster changed to 6981 Security Group. I was there Dec 62-Dec 64. I was in Comm Ctr and
knew very few people, like 292’s, 202,others. I was a 291. A2c. I only went in the ops area when there was a CRITIC.
I remember a SSgt Peterson, smoked a pipe all the time and gave me one. I also remember A2c Standifer now in North Carolina.
I had fond days of Elemendorf, especially the ski trips and and flying with a 292 Ditty Bop that had a hugh antenna at end of building and stayed on his radio all the time. Great guy and good pilot. Memember of AERO Club.
Glad to find this site.
Last assigned to 6924th SS DaNang
AB, Vn. There from 70-71. Other
SG or SS asgmts. No windows, one door, one way in and out. Cypher lock with combination. My best to all of you wherever you served.
Ed (Retired MSgt)
I was with the 6981st in late ’72-73. Believe as one of the first WAF that were trained as ditty boppers. I believe I was part of B flight. Did not last long…too young, made wrong choices, and left the USAF. I remember that the old timers did not particularly like having women invade their MOS — but that for the most part, the guys were really kind, and I never felt left out – even though I was the only female for the first month or so, until a 2nd female joined the flight a couple months later.
I was in the 6981st in early Mar 64-Jan 66. I got there a couple weeks before the earthquake in ’64. worked up on top of the hill USAFSS 292 non morse intercept operator on rotating shift. ditty boppers were like 272s. Russian language guys were 203s. master sgt shephard was running our shifts and also smoked a pipe.
We all got 8.6 cards for surviving the earthquake. Since then they have determined that it was actually 9.2. We had tremors in the 7s for days.
I remember walking through the tunnel to the chow hall during the winter. Tires that were so low that it would take a mile or so to roll instead of going bump, bump, bump. Plugging in the headbolt or oil pan heater at nights.
The guys I worked with were great, but I wouldn’t go back to Alaska for any amount of money.
I was at Elmendorf from 1968-1971 in the 6981st, and served as a 202 (analyst) in the main operations area. Met some great folks there and would like to hear from anyone who was there at that time..
I was in the 6981st C-flight from Sept 1970 to April, 1972. Lived in some apartments off-base with my wife. Worked with Mike Griffin, Lou Sartori, and some others. If anybody remembers this group, let me know!
How do I reply to a specific post in this string? I’d like to get back to Mike Griffin.
I was in the 6981st from Nov 65-Nov 67. Was the weather 202 on D flight. After leaving 6981st assigned to 6948th SSM Goodfellow and TDY to Osan Korea for 5 months when the Pueblo was captured. Anyone from that time period can contact me @ email@example.com Served with great people..
I was a 202 (analyst) from 1968-1971–and met some great folks at Elmendorf.
I was with the 6981st. radio squadron mobile in 1955 stationed on St. Lawrence Island, Alaska. From 1950 to 1970 the Russians shot down 20 American aircraft. One the month before I got to the island. I was seated on on a C-47 that was to fly to the island and was bumped off due to excessive weight. The plane went 75 miles and crashed killing all aboard. The crash victims were airman that attended Syracuse were we trained to be Russian linguists.
Was scheduled for Shemya in ’70. Ended up at Elmendorf AFB with 6981st doing admin for a while. Was 20351, Russian – attended Syracuse University ’68-’69, then on to Goodfellow, then to AK. Commander there was Rudolph (Rudy)Kostelny – anyone remember him?
I am looking for Tommy or Tom Fugate who I was stationed with at Elmendorf AF Base from 1962-1964. He also had a brother Joe Fugate.
I WAS THERE FROM 1961 TO 1963
TRANSEC D TRICK.
Arrived Sep.55 left Sep.57. Spent a year at Elmendorph and a year on St. Lawrence Island as a Radio Traffic Analysis.
Iwas at 6981st from April 65 to Sept 1st, 68. Lived in the barracks until Sept 65 when my wife drove up the Alcan by herself in our 59 chevy wagon 6-banger automatic. We lived in the S&S apartments on Medfra across from the private airfield. Started on A Flt I think and went to RFP under SSgt Johnson. Anyone remember Tommy Taylor who married a girl from Biloxi and lived in the apartments right off the main gate? Or Reginald Tibbs, tall, skinny black guy who drove a Karman Ghia?
I was a cross trained 203/202 on Able Flt. 1966-68. Like a couple of guys here I was on duty the night of the Pueblo. My boss was SMSGT Harold Hicks and I remember Sgt Melvin July.
Had some good times in Alaska. Two of the guys on A flt were in my wedding.
(Discharged Aug 68 Married Dec 69)
Ralph Cucitrone, I don’t have Mike Orndorff’s info any longer. I found it on whitepages.com and just took a chance. I remembered that he lived in Cincinnati, Ohio. Don’t know if you remember but we were roommates for a while. I got out in 71 and have lived in Florida ever since except for 3 years in school in Georgia.
Thanks for your reply. Yes I do remember you and Mike were room mates. Would you happen to know any contact info for any of the other guys we were stationed with? I lost contact with everyone a long time ago. The last person i was in contact with was Tim Loden. He lived in Maryland up until a year ago. I think he is now in Fort Myers. If you get a minute, drop me a line. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org.
It was good to hear from you. Please keep in touch.
I remember Ross Blue due to the unusual name. I was 20351 and then did a lot of work for Lt. Smith and MSgt Taylor when we were not busy in the back right corner. Those were good times. We had a great softball team all the time we were there. We lived just off base on Ericksen Street. I remember SSgt Jenkins as well as Hank Povolny with whom I have maintained contact.
Was at 6981st from July 1969 to July 1972. Worked (?) in maint as a 702X0.
Ditty Bopper there from 1970-1972-dont remember which flight I was on, but remember the following- Kurt Wedemeyer, Joe O’Leary, Rod Ulrich, Ed Flinchum, some guy w/ last name MacDonald who loved the Baltimore Orioles, David Begay who made bracelets out of beads, a guy nicknamed Woody from Washington State. Also remember some guy named Stuessie who killed some people at a club downtown
Also remember Phil Butts, Wayne Hibbard, Lawrence (Larry Kunz) from Elmendorf. Larry rebuilt a car engine in his dorm room. Supervisors remembered-Atkins (Adkins)-he was a jokester, Williams, and a guy nicknamed Nock (Enoch was his first name) 1970-72
Hello Gary Zurn!
Great to see you are still around after all this time. Sat on the same racks with you on Charlie Flight 1969-70.
I remember you were going to U of Alaska and complaining about your physical chemistry course.
George Leskovac ! Remember the poker sessions in your apartment ? Still have your baseball card collection ?
Great to hear of you both again.
Hi Rich, I remember you well You came to our apartment for dinner one time and we traded Christmas cards for awhile. I remember George also although I never played poker. I can’t remember first names but I think there was a Bob Reitz, Rich Campbell…hmmm Ron Jenkins…I know the first name is not correct. Hank Povolny we are still in contact with.
You also got my camera for me from Chicago.
SSgt Jenkins’ first name was Paul, I believe. Remember Warren Dennis and Dennis Cooper ? Supervisor was Tsgt Klein. Long time ago now.
Yes it was Paul. TSgt Lein was replaced by TSgt ??? who came from Germany. I think there was a Rick Campbell from Boston area who was always worrying about his deviate septum nose.What do you do now?
Oh yes. I used to ride to work with Bob Reitz on day shift as my wife worked for Mobil Oil as Legal Secretary. I had a blue 1967 Volkswagen. I did graduate from Alaska Methodist University and worked for a couple of years for GAR in chemistry but I have been with IBM now for 40 years
Rich Williams, so good to hear from you after all these years. I think of you every time we travel to visit friends in Oskosh, Wi. Really enjoyed my time there with you and, to some extend Dennis Cooper. Anyone remember “Fat Jack”. He and I collected ball cards and I have kept up with it all these years. Since I retired I now sell/buy on multiple web sites. Warren Dennis got married and settled in San Antonio..saw him again back in the 90’s.
Gary, we sure did have some great softball teams. I remember playing on one that played in a tournament for Alaska championship. Still have a picture of that team. Also played a lot of flag football. Great times. What’s up with you now Rich?
Gary, Was Hank Povolny a blond that wore black rimmed glasses, a 203 from Long Island? If so, he and I were on the same flight.
Yes we had great softball team. Post the picture of the team or send to me. I think he was from Ohio and a physics major and taught after Air Force days. He was on Charlie Flight and usually did the VHF work at the terminal nearest on C Flight.
I would like to see the pic of the ball team from C flight also. Anyway that can happen???
Hi Ralph, I don’t remember you but I was going to ask the same question.
i was on the rock in 1955 to 1956. Anyone left?
I was a ditty bopper RW and RC. i sat in the last row of flight back by the 202’s. i think i remember you. TSgt Carter was my supervisor.
Hi Ralph, I think I remember you. When I was not working the racks for voice, I was working as admin for Lt. Smith and MSgt Taylor.
I see a lot of postings from someone I knew at Elmendorf, Ron Hain. I wonder if you remember me Ron, Jack Durant. We used to go on double dates a lot in your GTO, also did some crazy things hanging out together. Unfortunately I didn’t see an email address to get hold of you.
Ron, I see the email adresses do not come up on the postings. Mine is email@example.com.
I was a ditty bopper with the 6981st from 69 to 71, charlie flight. I worked for ssgt murphy, and tsgt harley carter. Anyone on my flight can get in touch with me at my email address firstname.lastname@example.org.
I remember you…. are you still living in Massilon? How have you been? By any chance do you know the where-abouts of harley or murphy?
Keep in touch..
I tried sending you email at the address you have listed….. it came back undeliverable…..
Ralph, jim came to massillon twice and stayed with my wife and I for a week each time. He divorced linda and married another linda, he was living in maryland last I heard. Haven’t heard from him in 20 years, have know idea where he or harley are. I lost contact with harley after leaving from alaska. Try my email address again it should work. Take care Frank
Ralph, do you remember dave scoggins, or terry kaufman. Terry was from sandusky ohio. I looked him up, he was a police officer in sandusky.Keep; n touch.
Got discharged from tricky dick from the 69 1st back in April 72, spent two winters up in Elmendorf played a lot of sports, b ball, foot ball and softball we won the Alaska championship. Had a 7 footer, forget his name, but remember a left hand guard named Dobby I for o . Worked as a ditty bopper on Charlie flight. Was there from Oct 70 got red lined heading to phi cat south Vietnam airborne.
I was in 6981st at St. Lawrence sometime around 1958/1959. Think I was on A crew I think, ditty bopper, not sure which flt. Was crew leader on my shift. Memory fading regarding names. Our C/O was a Captain Cover. Remember a guy named “Billy” something from Eufala, Ala or Miss. If anyone remembers me, please post here or to my email (email@example.com) Would like to hear from some of the guys. Thanks
I’m looking for Terry Johnson, stationed at Elmendorf AFB, Alaska, who played keyboard with a band named The Embers in 1965. He, with the rest of the group, won the USAF Talent Contest.
Any contact information would be appreciated.
I was an A/1C crypto opr in the 6981st RGM comm center at Elmendorf from 12/57 till 2/59. Served with George Qualkenbush, Bill Magoteaux, Don Deaton, Willie Grant, S/Sgts Deloach and Crouch, SMS Setzer and SSGT Bob Rankin who went remote to DET 3 on Shemya, plus man more. It was an honor to serve with such a great group!! Would like to hear from anyone there during this time.
I was ditty bopper on Charlie flight from 71-74. I recognize a few names. Ron Sedlak, Mike Griffin and Tony Blume.
Kept going thru the comments and saw one from Ken Stinson mentioning my name along with John Allgood and Texas John Slaughter. Sure brings back the memories.
I was on Charlie flight from 71 till 74. I recognize quite a few names. I saw a post by Ken Stinson with my name and Texas John Slaughter, John Allgood. Brings back many memories.
i have started a group on facebook. The name of the group is I WAS STATIONED AT ELMENDORF AIR FORCE BASE. It is an open group so please join so we can all keep in touch.
I went to facebook to look for the group you created. i could not find it. can you send me the link?
I don’t use Facebook so I only have this forum with which to keep in contact with anyone on Charlie Flight from July 1969 to January 1972. Please continue to post here also.
I have not been able to find the group you created on Facebook. Please continue posting here.
Did anyone know Terry Johnson, who was with the 6981st at Elmendorf AFB in 1965?
He was a pianist, and a member of the group The Embers, who won the 1965 World-wide Talent Contest. We have been trying to locate him unsuccessfully.
We think he was originally from the Seattle/Tacoma area.
My father was stationed at the 81st in the mid sixties. Do any of you remember Bob Porterfield? We left Alaska and headed for San Antonio where Dad was stationed at Kelly. He then went to Viet Nam for a year and then back to Alaska in l970 where he retired as CMSgt. Sorry if dates are wrong – long time ago. Sadly we lost him in 2008 to multiple myeloma – probably from exposure to agent orange in Viet Nam. Look forward to hearing from anyone who knew him.
I seem to remember him. I worked on Charlie Flight from July 1969 to January 1972. CMSGT Taylor was on my flight as I remember.
At the 6981st from Nov 1971 till March 1976. Printer Systems Operator
Dad was from West by God Virginia. When he retired someone who was obviously quite talented drew a caricature of him and presented it to him. When he moved to North Carolina he finally got to farm, which to him was truly the good life. Miss him every day.
Was at the 6981st. 1964 – 1966
Chipped ice from September till May
Ditty bopper of course.
Hope to hear from anyone who hated those 3 shifts!
Terry Johnson was at Elmendorf AFB, 1964-65. He was with the 6981st. Did you know him?
6981st dittybopper 1962-1964 anchorage.don’t remember what flt. looking for ron phillips from palto alto ca.
Hello, Does anyone remember my dad, Ron Perkins, he was at Northeast Cape AFS, St. Lawrence zisland, Alaska dates about 1964, 1965, 1966?
correct last post.in anchorage 1963-64. looking for ron phillips Sunnyvale,ca.
I was on St. Lawrence in 1955. Am I the last man standing? I was seated on a C-47 that was on the way to the Island when I was bumped with 2 other linguists. The plane crashed near Skwenta and all were killed. Is there one left from that period?
A Flight dec 58-may61
Was at the 6981st from 1973 to 1975, on “Dog” Flt. Sat Russian long range bomber rack and then MSD rack with SSgt. Tom Imperial before he left to go to work as a policeman with the city of Anchorage. Good friends on Dog Flt… Al King, Charlie Luedke, Harley Carter, Harry Borst, and CB Wright. Great memories of ditty-bopping in the wild north.
do you know where Harley carter is now? he was my supervisor on Charlie flight 1967 1970.anyinfoyou have for him would be appreciated. tks
Just remembered a couple of good guys from 1973. Both were 292’s. TSGT Tennyson “Sneek” he would be in his 80s by now. Herb Hull did taxidermy to supplement his income. I still have some of his work. He would be getting close to 70. Both were on Charlie Flight.
Ken good to see your latest comment. I replied to one earlier about Texas John Slaughter, John Allgood. I remember the time You myself Allgood and Tsgt. Tennison went hunting. We had some good times. Email me, firstname.lastname@example.org
Would like to know if anyone remembers Terry Johnson, who was at Elmendorf in 1965, Terry was with the 6981st Security Group, and played piano with a group called “The Embers.” The Embers won the 1965 World-wide Talent Contest.
I’m the sax player from the group, and all the other players are search for Terry. If you know of where he may be please let me know.
I was a ditty bopper at Elmendorf from 69-72, Dog Flt.
I had the hottest 1968 yellow Chevelle on the base.
Does anyone remember Sgt Rowe? (scar face). Pat Owens and myself use to write a paper for Dog Flt.
Got in trouble a couple of times for what we wrote.
Loved going to King Salmon fishing.
I remember Bob Fox, &Sgt. Gonzoles. He saved my stipes one time.
Does anyone remember my father hank kowal.
I am still looking for Tommy or Tom Fugate who was stationed at Elmendorf AF base in the early 1960’s-61-64. I believe he worked on the flight line. He was from Indiana.
Was 292 ditty bop..68 to 70, the mission soup was msgt jeremiah, sgt bernie, sgt bullock, our supevisors…remember 707 going down, also big earthquake, floor rippled, only names I remember, jeff enterline, ross coates, larry walters, dave mitchell, and larry broome….anyone know larry broome is, last saw him in saigon 1971 would like to find him
I served with the 6981st from 1968-70 as a 202 analyst in the ops cage appreciating the excellent leadership of SMSgt Harold Hicks, Jim Krause, and Bill Barbero. I transferred to NSA with buddies Mike Wondrash, Marty Wilson, and Larry Griffin.
I remember the “Moose Cage”, teletypes, burn bag detail, mail box chow line, week old TV, paycheck poker, Johnny Cash music, “”good grub at the Union Club”, and the great times we spent at the “Bird House Bar” enroute to fish the Russian River.
Took GI bill for degree from San Jose State. Retired after 35 years with Idaho State DEQ. Wish I could remember all your names and faces.
I served with the 6981st from 1968-70 as a 202 in the ops cage appreciating the leadership of SMSgt Harold Hicks, SSgts Jim Krause, and Bill Barberro. Transferred to NSA with buddies Mike Wondrash, Marty Wilson, and Larry Griffin.
I remember the “Moose Cage”, noisey teletypes, burn bag detail, mail box chow line, week old TV, paycheck poker, Johnny Cash music, “good grub at The Union Club”, The Monkey Bar, and always stoping by the tilted Bird House Bar enroute to fish the Russian River.
Took the GI Bill for degree from San Jose State. Retired after 35 years with Idaho State DEQ.
JERRY CARTER. POSTED BACK IN 2012. Get in touch with me.
There is a FB page, ‘6981st Security Group, USAFFSS. Its a ‘closed group’ so you have to ‘ask;’ to be let in. Please do.
JERRY CARTER. My email is <> We have put the band back together and need you to sing lead…Lumpy can sing backup….
Jack, just got back to the site. My email is email@example.com Can’t place the name, but if you remember the GTO, would like to chat.
JERRY CARTER, posted in Jan 2014. We have been looking for you for 4 years. There are a bunch of us together, reunions, Facebook etc. MAC, Bratton, Robbie. Rinderle, Inabnit, Joe Martin.
I was at 6981 from 1969-1971, a non-morse intercept operator. Sadly, I do not remember the flight we were on, but a TSGT Welch and Chris Benetti were supervisors. My wife and I lived in Panoramic View apts. I was first stationed at 6984 at Shemya right out of tech school….a wedding present from Uncle Sam. We drove up the Alcan from S. California.
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